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| − | TiP is a talent identification program similar to CTY but run by Duke. Of the kids who have attended both camps, most prefer CTY, but a few like TiP better. Some TiPsters are arrogant and like trashing CTY and realCTY, but they can't cause our loyalty or pride to waver. They also contend that CTY has "stolen" traditions, and indeed there are questions about where and when "American Pie" and a few other canon songs first popped up, but rest assured, dearest CTYers, that our traditions (especially at CAR and LAN) are quite distinctive -- and that, according to the TiP wiki, during a session in 2005 a "tradition was borrowed from the Center for Talented youth program [sic] (CTY), where after 'This will be the day that I die' you yell 'die, die, die, die, live, live, live, live, sex, sex, sex, sex, more, more, more, more' and then go back to being sad in your circle."
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| − | If you'd like to learn more about TiP from their side of things, you can visit [http://www.tipwiki.net/wiki/Main_Page] here, but please stay respectful and do not edit their wiki. The TiP wiki is formatted somewhat differently than our own; there's less of an emphasis on grouping and providing a good sense of what it's like to be there and much more focused on having long lists of names.
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| − | Information about TIP summer session can be found here [http://tip.duke.edu/node/1326]. Their campuses are split up by grade, so seventh and some eighth graders are together and eighth through tenth graders are together. Compare this to CTY site where a campus with a Five Year Freak could have seventh through eleventh graders learning together.
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| − | CTD (Center for Talent Development) is similar to CTY and TiP but is run by Northwestern. Their summer program, however, is generally agreed upon to be inferior to both CTY and TIP.
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